Sunday, September 28, 2014

Second Letter Sent to County Commissioner Dennis Fink, October 7, 2003



The following is the second letter I sent to former St. Louis County (Minnesota) Commissioner Dennis Fink regarding my former neighbor Tom Hinze (see photo). 
I never got any direct response to the first letter sent more than 2 months earlier, (though I did hear through the grapevine that Mr. Fink had talked privately about the case with Sheriff Litman). 
Neither individual thought it a serious enough matter to interview any of the people who I mentioned having been physically attacked or threatened by Tom HInze, however. Nor did the Sheriff ever take any statement from me about Tom having threatened my life.
As a matter of fact, Tom was released from the Northeast Regional Correction Center (NERCC) in the fall of 2003, after completing less than 6 months of a sentence for his DWI offense. He had had multiple DWI's, several of them "inimical to public safety". There were so many they wouldn't even fit on one page in the official printout, and so there were two pages, which I saw, back in 2003.  I don't know the exact number of DWI's he had, but it was many. Other people get much longer than 6 months for way less and less severe offenses than he had, and have had reporting requirements, besides.
Nevertheless, Tom was released back into the Birch Point Road neighborhood where I lived at the time, and hung around there for at least a week, making everybody in the neighborhood nervous. He was allowed to leave the State of Minnesota with absolutely no probation reporting requirements whatsoever.  
And still, the Sheriff's Department refused to DNA test him. He submitted the samples, but they never were never submitted for testing. This was confirmed to me by email from Ron Taggart, from the Public Defender's office, in 2013 -- I will publish that email in a later post.
Tom's being totally unconditionally released with no probation was despite the fact that there were numerous indications that he may have been involved in the murder of Trina Langenbrunner, and though I had made numerous complaints that he had made threats against my life.
 

6168 Birch Point Road
Saginaw, MN  55779
October 7, 2003
729-9398
(cell 310-3336)

St. Louis County Commissioner
Dennis E. Fink
205 Courthouse,
Duluth, Minnesota  55802

Dear Mr. Fink,

Thank you for speaking with Mr. Litman.

I recently talked to a friend XXXXXXX (name redacted) who told me that Douglas Hoffbauer from NERCC had told her I basically made up the information about Tom Hinze, because I am after a reward. Mr. Hoffbauer told her that Tom Hinze is an "OK guy".

Mr. Hinze does not have that reputation among the fairly large circle of people I associate with. He's known as a drunk with a penchant for violence, and with a dislike for women. The Sheriff's Department would not have to take my word for that, but in fact, should have recollection of it already, as people living on the Birch Point Road do.

I believe it was in 1998 that XXXXXXX (name redacted) called them concerning Tom Hinze smashing his glasses into his face. (Tom paid for the glasses that time, and was not charged with assault.) And I believe it was in 2000 that they were again called, by XXXXXXX (name redacted), because he threatened her. (XXXXXXX (name redacted) took the dog that Tom had been abusing, hid her at an undisclosed location, and again, Tom Hinze was not charged with anything.)

Mr. Hoffbauer also told my friend that Tom Hinze says he has been "DNA'ed three times". Tom told my neighbor XXXXXXX (name redacted) the same thing.

Mr. Hoffbauer is evidently willing to take that statement at face value, and not question why anyone should have to be DNA tested three times. XXXXXXX (name redacted) and I were thinking that one time should be sufficient, providing there was a DNA sample from the murder scene in the first place, and also providing the provided DNA sample was analyzed. Perhaps Mr. Hoffbauer in his corrections officer role, knows more about DNA testing than XXXXXXX (name redacted) or I do...

As far as the "incidents" on my property I'm sure Mr. Litman mentioned as an excuse for not investigating the Nissan car with mismatched tires he himself asked me about, before it was scrapped -- I used to hire about 15 young people on my farm before I was forced out of business. I paid them as well as I could, always more than minimum wage, even when I began losing money in the mid 1990's. I'm sure I could come up with a list of 100 or more young people who've worked for me over the 25 years I was in business. Many of them stop in to see me, and/or my son, as they consider us friends, and are grateful for the jobs I used to be able to provide.

I've never made it a practice to dial 911 every time I saw a kid smoking a cigarette, or drinking a beer. I was raised in a different era. I've always thought that kids are going to be kids, and that fining them large amounts of money and locking them up for being so -- even forcing them to take strong drugs and/or electro-shocking them for non-compliance -- is going to turn out very counterproductive for our county/country in the long run. There are going to be a lot of angry young people, and in fact, there already are.

I do consider murder a serious crime, and I have done my best to inform the Sheriff's Department of what I have seen. It is obvious they don't want to hear it, from me. I was rather shocked to see Mr. Litman with a sarcastic smile on his face, as I was talking to him about a murder. Nothing about the situation seemed funny to me.

I should also mention that I heard via the grape-vine that Sally Burns told Tom Hinze that she is afraid for HIS safety, if he should come around me. The person who Tom told that to, laughed out loud at hearing it, and then repeated it to me. I have no reputation for any sort of violence. Mr. Hinze does have a reputation for violence. I can give the Sheriff's Department names of other people he has physically attacked, while drunk. Not to mention his long string of DWI's. Yet Mr. Litman, Sally Burns, and Mr. Hoffbauer all seem to agree that he is an "OK guy", and I am not.

I am thankful that XXXXXXX (name redacted) and many other people disagree with them. XXXXXXX (name redacted)  and I have been friends for years.

It seems I find myself living in Topsy-turvydom, here. Young people having fun is considered a crime worth sending numerous law enforcement vehicles out to the Birch Point Road to put an end to it (my son and I don't even dare have a group of friends over anymore for fear of further harassment) -- but, on the other hand, it took the Sheriff's Department nearly two years to come out to look at a tire possibly connected with a brutal murder. "Time constraints", perhaps, or a strange sense of proportion. Even World War II vets in their 80's, can hardly believe what they see going on lately. I'm afraid it's going to get much worse before it gets better, if it ever does get better.

Regards,



Lloyd Wagner

Friday, September 26, 2014

First Letter Sent to County Commissioner Fink, July 24, 2003

This post is of a letter I sent to former St. Louis County Commissioner Dennis Fink on July 24, 2003. Please notice that this date is over 2 months after I sent the letter in my last post to the St. Louis County Sheriff's Department.
This letter to Commissioner Fink continues the story of my unsuccessful efforts to get the Sheriff's Department to do a serious investigation of my testimony.
As before, I've redacted names to protect the innocent.
What I'd most like to point out in the following letter are three obvious absurdities that Ross Litman and Sally Burns told me with straight faces: 1. Ross Litman claimed that the Sheriff's Deparment could tell with 100% certainty what brand of vehicle had left certain tire tracks. 2. Sally Burns claimed to be able to tell the color of shoes from their tracks, and 3. She claimed that Tom Hinze having offered a sample of his DNA was in itself proof that he was innocent.
In fact, I was informed by email as late as 2013 by Mr. Ron Taggart, investigator for the Public Defender's office, that Tom Hinze had STILL never been DNA tested as of 2013 ... and then of course Joseph Couture was convicted solely on the basis of a "confession", with NO DNA evidence ever having been presented to a jury. Nor has my testimony nor the testimony of any sworn witness ever been presented to a jury. The witness claimed by the Sheriff is still unnamed, and in addition, his/her identify has been sealed by the judge.
Also, I'd like to point out that NERCC (Northeast Region Corrections Center) is first mentioned in this post. That institution, including Douglas Hoffbauer, former work foreman there, had repeated involvement with Tom Hinze, who was sentenced there for his repeated DWI's. I'd previously made complaints about corruption at NERCC to the Minnesota Attorney General's Office, and I suspect that this may have had something to do with County officials' reluctance to do any serious investigation of anything I might say about a murder case for which they had offered a $100,000 reward for information.
This is what passes for "justice" in St. Louis County.
As I said in previous posts, Tom Hinze is dead now, so they can no longer accuse me of posting this in hopes of any reward. I want to see justice, that's all, and to inform people of this matter.
Here's the letter to Dennis Fink -- to which, by the way, I am still waiting for a reply, over 11 years later. 



6168 Birch Point Road
Saginaw, MN  55779
July 24, 2003
729-9398
(cell 310-3336)

St. Louis County Commissioner
Dennis E. Fink
205 Courthouse,
Duluth, Minnesota  55802

Dear Commissioner Fink:
           
            This letter is in regards to, and a continuation of my former letter "To Whom it may concern", dated May 19th, 2003.
            On the morning of May 20, I was at XXXXXXX’s (name redacted) discussing with him the fact that I'd heard that Tom Hinze had already been released from jail. XXXXXXX (name redacted), who lives on the Canosia Road, had called me to tell me he'd seen him hitchhiking westward on Highway 2.
            XXXXXXX (name redacted) told me that Tom had been released in the middle of the night, and after making several calls to XXXXXXX’s (name redacted), had found a ride to XXXXXXX's (name redacted) and then to XXXXXXX's (name redacted). Neither wanted him around, so evidently he'd made his way to Highway 2, where he was seen hitchhiking around 10:00 that morning.
            As XXXXXXX (name redacted) and I were talking, two Sheriff's Department investigators, Sally Burns and a man who I hadn't met before, came to XXXXXXX's (name redacted) door to ask him if he knew where Tom Hinze was. XXXXXXX (name redacted) said the only thing he knew was that Tom had been seen hitchhiking up Highway 2, probably going back to Grand Forks where he'd come from.
            Ms. Burns saw me in XXXXXX's (name redacted) kitchen, and told me they had stopped at my house first, but I wasn't home. Ms. Burns immediately started talking about the letter I'd sent, and denied ever having said that "Tom Hinze is not a suspect in this case." (This is what XXXXXXX (name redacted) told me that Philip Wagner from the MBCA had told him. Mr. Wagner hadn't said it directly to me, but on the other hand, I've never known XXXXXXX (name redacted) to lie. In fact, I have asked him again what Mr. Wagner had said, and he repeated, "He said he talked to Sally Burns, and she told him that Tom Hinze is not a suspect in this case.")
            Ms. Burns told me she has "over eight hundred suspects" in this case, including someone who has confessed, but couldn't possibly have done it.
            Ms. Burns also told me that she HAD identified herself to me on the phone when she called during the fall of 2000 asking about Tom's whereabouts. I certainly don't remember that, or I doubt very much if I would have thought she was Tom's sister calling me. I didn't argue, however.
            Ms. Burns also told me that the size 11 or 12 New Balance shoes they had a print of, were not black, like the size 11 or 12 New Balance shoes I'd seen on Tom Hinze shortly before the murder, but white. I didn't argue, but asked her if, after looking at the tire from the 1987 Nissan I used to own, she would check with New Balance again (to see if they have a different tread pattern for each color shoe they make).
            The male investigator broke into the conversation, and explained to me that law enforcement people have to have something solid, and just a pair of shoes is not enough. Then he said, "Let's go look at that tire."
            We went to my house, and they put the tire in their car.
            The male investigator came into my house to rinse his hands off, then asked me some questions about Mr. Hinze.
            "Does he have a history of violence?" 
            I said I'd seen him start fist fights when he was drinking, and that one time Tom himself had gotten beaten up pretty badly. I mentioned another time he twisted my coat collar and lifted me off the ground, because I refused to give him the keys to my 1987 Nissan. Tom had lent me some money when I first bought the car, and though I'd paid him back, he still somehow thought the car was his.
            The investigator asked me, "Was he drunk?" 
            I said, "Yes."
            "What was his attitude towards women?"
            I answered, "Very bad. He compared them to animals. He told me that one time he had stuck a girl's head into a toilet and flushed it."
            "Do you have any idea why he drove back roads in the middle of the night?"
            I answered, "I asked him that one time, and he told me it was because he liked to drive when no one would bother him, because he didn't have a drivers' license." I also repeated the same thing I told Mr. Litman two years ago, that Mr. Hinze was from Red Lake Falls where his father was Sheriff of the county, and since he was young, had travelled Highway 2, and the back roads between Highway 2 and Highway 53. He knew those back roads like the back of his hand, and often drove them after midnight, drinking vodka. He'd often come back to the neighborhood here early in the morning, after the sun was up, with an almost empty bottle. Sometimes he'd come back with a half pint of Blue 100, or Hot 100.
            The investigator then asked me about the amount of tread that was on the tire, back in 2000. "About the depth of the proverbial head of Abraham Lincoln?"
            I said, "Yeah, about that much."
            (The tire in question is now worn much more than that, as I sold the car to some neighbor kids, who drove it until it was broke down and ready to be junked. Nevertheless, the tread pattern on the tire is still discernible)
            I told the investigators that I wanted to file some sort of official complaint that Mr. Hinze had threatened both my life and XXXXXXX’s life. Ms. Burns told me that the letter I sent had already accomplished that.
            The next morning, the same male investigator returned the tire, and told me, "We couldn't get it to match."
            I couldn't argue, but I had to shrug my shoulders in puzzlement. I thought it must have been the same KIND of tire they were looking for, or they certainly could have told me over the phone that it was not, and saved themselves two trips out to the Birch Point Road. I suppose perhaps they were looking for a certain imperfection in the tread that showed up in their print, but I also suppose that kids putting several thousand miles of hard use on that tire could have easily obliterated that imperfection.
            Nevertheless, it seemed to me that (1) the same kind of tire from the 1987 Nissan with mismatched tires Mr. Litman had previously questioned me over, (2) plus the fact that Mr. Hinze had been driving a black mini-van a week before the murder, (3) plus the fact that Mr. Hinze was wearing size 11 or 12 New Balance shoes shortly before the murder, (4) plus the fact that Mr. Hinze has no alibi whatsoever, (5) plus the fact that he was known to travel the roads in question in the middle of the night, (6) plus the fact he'd burned clothes in the woodstove in his trailer shortly after the murder, (7) plus the fact that he spoke of women as "animals" and very often mentioned "Indian girls" in particular, all put together, should now, at least, make Mr. Hinze a definite suspect in the case.
            During the next few days I became aware that when Mr. Hinze was arrested on May 17, he was merely charged with his old 2000 warrant for DWI, but was not charged with an additional DWI. The deputies who arrested him with guns drawn, said they "hadn't seen him driving the vehicle."
            XXXXXXX (name redacted), who was a passenger in the vehicle when it was pulled over, and XXXXXXX (name redacted) , whose yard the vehicle was stopped in, both told me that Mr. Hinze had jumped from the vehicle, and was a short distance from it, with the keys in his hand, pouring out a bottle of vodka. He was very drunk, and I myself saw him perhaps an hour before, and I know that he was very drunk, and still drinking vodka.
            I know a person who was charged with a DWI, and later convicted, because he was picked up walking over 1/2 mile away from his vehicle which had broken down. I was told that Sheriff's deputies were handing out DWI's at the street dance in Brookston in 2001, for people merely drinking in the same TOWN as their vehicle, with keys in their pockets, even though they hadn't gotten into their vehicle to drive anywhere. A neighbor of mine told me that the person who lives across the road from her was given a one year's sentence for a DWI, as he was picked up one night sitting in his vehicle in her driveway, across the road from his own house.
            When XXXXXXX (name redacted) asked one of the County Attorneys why Mr. Hinze seems to have a "Get Out of Jail Free card", Ms. Burns explained that he wasn't charged with another DWI because he's had so many DWI's and test refusals, he simply costs the department too much money trying to correct him.
            That really flabbergasted me, because I've read that the very reason the Minnesota Legislature passed stricter laws making repeat DWI offenses felonies, was to get incorrigible drunks off the roads and keep them locked up where they can't hurt anyone. And also flabbergasting to me was the fact that XXXXXXX (name redacted) told me that the deputies who had hauled Tom Hinze off to jail that night had sarcastically mentioned "certain people" who don't seem to think driving while drunk is a serious offense, when "a little kid might get killed." The deputies had even threatened XXXXXXX (name redacted) with "obstruction of justice".
            It seems inconceivable to me that the Sheriff's Department could not have charged Mr. Hinze with an additional (perhaps felony) DWI if they had wanted to, and in fact, as they would have with anyone else. This has made all who have heard about it, rather angry.
            Some have speculated that perhaps Mr. Hinze "has something" on someone or some department, and they are trying to keep him quiet. This doesn't make a lot of sense to me, because I can't see why Tom Hinze would be listened to at all, considering his reputation of being a lifelong drifter (always dressed in black, and nearly always drinking vodka), plus the long list of DWI's and test refusals he has had, at least the last two of which were for being an "inimical danger to public safety".
            It also upset people to find out that Mr. Hinze was informed by the Sheriff's Department, "It was a girl who called you in." Mr. Hinze very easily narrowed "a girl" down to XXXXXXX (name redacted), and has, in fact, threatened her life. Several people told me that the answer they'd received when they asked who had turned them in for DWI was, "That's none of your business."
            I remember back in 1998 when someone falsely accused me of growing marijuana, resulting in a terrifying four-hour police raid on my property during which they found no marijuana, the police refused to give me any clue who had falsely accused me. A county worker explained that to me, "Think about it, Lloyd, if you turned someone in for a crime, would you want the police to let that person know who you were? He might want to go after you, and hurt you."
            Tom Hinze did return to XXXXXXX's (name redacted) place in early June, where XXXXXXX (name redacted) saw him early one morning sleeping in a vehicle in his yard. XXXXXXX (name redacted) immediately called Sally Burns' office to tell her Tom was in town, and immediately told Tom that Sally Burns wanted to talk to him.
            Tom went into the Sheriff's investigators' office on June 4th or 5th, and submitted a DNA sample.
            On June 9, I called Sally Burns' office to tell her about a knife I thought may have once belonged to Tom Hinze. She told me she didn't think that it was the kind of knife that fit the crime, and that she'd call me back after checking with their records. (She did call me back in about 15 minutes. It wasn't the kind of knife used in the murder, and she told me that without having to look at the knife.)
            Then, she told me, "Tom voluntarily gave us a DNA sample, Lloyd. I think that since he voluntarily came in and gave the sample, that's a pretty good indication he's innocent."
            I do not know if that is such a good indication of his innocence that the DNA sample was submitted to a lab for testing, in the same way a voluntarily given Breathalyzer would be read by the policeman who asked for it, or not. I would very much like to know, but I do not feel I am getting straight information on my questions, verifiable by me, and so I have not asked Ms. Burns.
            A couple of weeks ago, XXXXXXX (name redacted) called me to say he'd seen Tom Hinze on the Boardwalk downtown, and had talked with him.
            Tom told XXXXXXX (name redacted) that the Sheriff's Department had given him a copy of the letter I had sent them. Tom also said that they had mentioned that I "didn't make them look very good either", and that they told him he could go after me legally. Tom told XXXXXXX (name redacted) that he expected to be sentenced to NERCC, and that while he is sentenced there, he plans to talk with Douglas Hoffbauer concerning how to go after at me legally. He has told XXXXXXX (name redacted) the same thing. I heard yesterday from XXXXXXX (name redacted) that Mr. Hinze was sentenced to 5 months at NERCC, to begin about the 26th of July.
            Last time Tom Hinze was sentenced to 6 months at NERCC for an "inimical danger to public safety" DWI, he was on Mr. Hoffbauer's chicken crew, meaning that at certain occasions, Tom was sent out at night, to do necessary work when baby chicks were about to arrive, etc.
            Tom bragged to me that on one occasion, he and an accomplice he didn't name, had successfully heisted some 30 chickens just before butchering day. He said the accomplice had taken them out through the back side of NERCC, which, as you know, borders the Birch Point Road I live on. Tom told me that Mr. Hoffbauer had questioned Tom about what had happened to the birds, and Tom denied any knowledge, with a grin. Tom also told me that while other residents were paid their $2 a day for five days a week, Tom was paid for seven days a week.
            When Tom was given an early release from NERCC during the summer of 2000, he told me that Douglas Hoffbauer told him, "Bets were five to one around here, the judge wouldn't let you out early. How did you do it, Tom?" Tom's answer was, "The Joker beats the Ace, Doug."
            I am totally at a loss WHY the Sheriff's investigators have been so foot-dragging in looking at any type of evidence I've offered them that might possibly be connected to this murder.
            Mr. Litman had asked me where the 1987 Nissan was, for example, and I told him that it was at XXXXXXX's (name redacted), and soon to be scrapped. After Mr. Litman asked me in a sarcastic tone if I had "SOLD the car??", he still never sent anyone to go and look at it -- though XXXXXXX's (name redacted) son told me he'd noticed that there was a stain on the roof-liner that looked as if it might have been blood. The car has long since been scrapped.
            For another example, though I told Mr. Litman that Tom Hinze had burned clothes in the woodstove in his trailer in September 2000, Mr. Litman has never asked me if I know where the woodstove or the trailer are now.
            Though Mr. Litman asked me a specific question concerning the mismatched tires on the 1987 Nissan, it took nearly two years, plus a certified letter mailed both to the St. Louis County Sheriff's Department and to Mr. Dupois, Trina Langenbrunner's cousin on the Cloquet Police Department, before anyone would come and look at the tire.
            As I said above, I have no way of knowing if the DNA sample was submitted to any lab, or not, and I would very much like to know to which lab, and to see the entire results with my own eyes. I would also like to tell you of my nervousness of having Mr. Hinze sentenced to NERCC, a low security facility just a half a mile through the woods from my place, as I've told the Sheriff's investigators several times he has threatened my life, and promised to "straighten things out" with me for having talked to the investigators about him.
            I don't know if you can help in this situation, Mr. Fink, but I appreciate your having read this letter.

Sincerely,



Lloyd Wagner


Wednesday, September 24, 2014

First letter Sent to St. Louis County Sheriff's Department, May 19, 2003

The picture on the left is of Thomas J. Hinze, my former neighbor on the Birch Point Road in Twig.
I'll try to add to this blog every day, but as I'm working full time, it's not always possible.
First, I'll post the text to a letter I wrote back in May 2003, several months after having first informed the Sheriff's Department of the information I was aware of as of that time. This letter gives a pretty thorough history of what happened (from my point of view) between the murder and May 2003.
I've redacted names of innocent people for their protection, but will not, of course, redact names of those who were and are involved.
I remember waking up early in the morning of May 19 and writing this letter, because I was literally afraid for my life. Tom Hinze had repeatedly threatened me over the phone from where he was living in North Dakota, saying he was just "3 hours away", and reminding me that he "knew every trail on the Birch Point Road". As many of you know, the Birch Point Road is a fairly remote rural area, with a lot of trails through the woods between Caribou Lake and where I used to live.
I sent one copy of this letter to the Sheriff's Department, certified mail with a return receipt, and I printed out several more copies which I hand-delivered to several neighbors. Just in case something DID happen to me by the person who'd threatened my life, I wanted more than just the Sheriff's Department to have a record of my testimony and complaints.
Later in this blog, I will relate more history of WHY I believe the Sheriff\s Department adamantly refused to do an honest investigation based on my info, but I think this May 19, 2003 letter is a good starting point.
Thanks for reading!



To Whom it may concern:

I, Lloyd Wagner, am a witness to the following:

1.         a. Tom Hinze was wearing a pair of New Balance shoes in late August 2000, on the day he was prematurely released from the St. Louis County jail because his paperwork had been "lost".  The shoes were bigger than his feet. He normally wears a size 9.
            b.  I asked Mr. Hinze where he got the shoes, which were different than the work boots he usually wore. He told me that as he'd been barefoot when he was arrested, and had to walk out of jail, the jail had given him these shoes from storage.
            c. I distinctly know that the shoes were New Balance shoes because I remember making the comment that Mr. Hinze would have to learn to keep his balance all over again on these new shoes.
            d. The shoes did not take on any significance to me until September 2001 when I read an article in the Duluth Budgeteer concerning the anniversary of the murder of Tina Langenbrunner. In fact, I did not even immediately recall the fact that they were New Balance shoes. Until after I was told that the shoes the police were looking for were that brand, the shoes had seemed completely insignificant to me, and I hadn't thought of them for over a year. All I immediately remembered was that the shoes were black with white markings, that they had been bigger than Mr. Hinze's feet, and that he'd told me he'd been given them out of storage at the jail.

2.         a. I had heard that a black mini-van had been mentioned in connection to the murder of Ms. Langenbrunner. Mr. Hinze had been driving a black mini-van during August 2000, but it had been impounded when he was arrested for DWI. I knew this van was still in impound when Ms. Langenbrunner was murdered, and so I discounted neighborhood suspicions that Mr. Hinze may have been the murderer (because of his habit of driving around in the middle of the night between Proctor, Floodwood, and Alborn, both on Hiway 2 and on the back roads). I pointed out to several people that his van was in impound that night, and therefore he couldn't have been driving around.
            b.  Nevertheless, my suspicions about Tom Hinze were belatedly aroused a year later, because of my recollection of the flashy shoes Tom had been wearing when released from jail.
            XXXXXXX, XXXXXXX (names redacted) and I went to the St. Louis County Sheriff's Department where I spoke with Mr. Ross Litman and Ms. Sally Burns.
            c. Mr. Litman pointed out that Mr. Hinze's van had been in impound the night of the murder. He asked me if there were any other vehicle Mr. Hinze could have been driving that night. I answered there was none that I could think of.
            d. On my way home from the Sheriff's office, it suddenly struck me that Mr. Hinze could have easily used one of my cars that night. He was staying in a camping trailer on my property in early September, prior to leaving town to head west to look for work, and was using the bathroom in my house. I have the habit of throwing my car keys on the dining room table when I come in the house, and since I live in the country, I've sometimes even been sloppy about leaving them in the car.
            e. As soon as I got home, I called Mr. Litman immediately to tell him that Mr. Hinze could have possibly stolen one of my cars that night. I told Mr. Litman that there were two cars in my yard in September 2000: a Chevy Corsica, and a 1987 Nissan Sentra. Mr. Litman asked me questions about "it" or "the car", and prior to answering each question, I asked him if he was referring to the Corsica, or the Nissan.
            f. Mr. Litman made it clear to me that he was referring to the 1987 Nissan. He asked me, "Did it have matching tires?" The Nissan did not.  He asked me, "Where is the car now?" The Nissan was sitting broken down in the yard of XXXXXXX (name redacted), on Munger Shaw Road near Taft, and soon to be scrapped. Mr. Litman asked me, "You sold the car?" Yes, I had sold the Nissan, as it was worn out.
            g.  Mr. Litman then informed me that he was interested in a van, not a Nissan passenger car, (which made me wonder why he had asked specifically about a Nissan passenger car, and was not interested in any information about a Corsica).
            h.  Shortly after talking to Mr. Litman, I realized that I still had the tires that had been on the Nissan a year earlier, and I called and left a message for Mr. Litman concerning this fact.
            i. Eventually, after I talked to Ms. Langenbrunner's mother and her uncle, Mr. Jim DuPois, a St. Louis County deputy and a Fondulac Reservation deputy came together to my house to see the tires. The tires were down the road in XXXXXXXX’s (name redacted) garage, where I had put them for safe keeping, not wanting them in a pile on my property, in case Mr. Hinze should show up in town.
            j.  The deputies seemed impatient, and told me, "If these aren't the tires, we're not coming back to look at anything else."
            k.  Not long after, Ms. Sally Burns called to tell me these were not the tires.
            l.  I went to XXXXXXX’s (name redacted) to retrieve my tires. He told me the deputies had said, "The tire we're looking for is a bigger tire, and has anti-hydroplaning grooves running down the tread of the tire, not a diamond-shaped tread as these have."
            m. I started thinking some more about the Nissan I'd owned a year earlier, and suddenly remembered that one of the tires on the car HAD been a 14-inch tire, though the rest were 13-inch tires. It was a 14-inch tire mounted on the donut spare tire rim. That tire was still on the car, and I asked XXXXXXXX’s (name redacted) son to retrieve it for me.
            It's a little-known fact that the miniature tire on the donut rim can be replaced with a real tire, but a 14-inch tire, rather than a 13-inch as is stock on the car.  This particular tire was/is a Goodyear Invicta GA, size P185/70R14 87T. Serial Number E13 0289063. There is an additional serial number of 229 on the tire. This tire has anti-hydroplaning grooves, rather than a diamond-shaped tread. It is mounted on a 14-inch donut spare tire rim from a 1987 Nissan Sentra. It is a four-hole rim, with the holes 2 3/4 inches apart (from center to center), and the center hole 2 1/4 inches in diameter. The tread print is almost worn out on this tire, but not totally. I enclose a print of it.
            n.  Since I had been told in a no-uncertain manner that the police weren't going to look at anything more I had to show them, I brought this tire to a friend's house on the Fondulac Reservation, and informed Mr. Jim Dupois, Ms. Langenbrunner's uncle, where this tire was located. Mr. Dupois told me he would inform his nephew, who is on the Cloquet Police force.
            o. Though this was well over a year ago, I haven't heard anything since.

3.         a.  Mr. Hinze informed me one morning in early September 2000, "If it smells funny around the trailer, it's because I burned some old clothes in the stove." He also informed me that morning, that he'd taken my car to the bottle shop to buy a bottle of vodka, and that he hoped I wouldn't mind. I didn't say anything, but started taking the car keys into my bedroom with me. Mr. Hinze left on the bus a couple of days later, saying that since his paperwork had been "lost", he was going to Washington State.
            b.  Not long after, I heard that some people on this road were questioned one day by the police about Mr. Hinze's whereabouts. I hadn't been home that day, and I assumed that Mr. Hinze's lost DWI paperwork had been found.
            c.  About the same time, someone called me and said she was looking for information about Tom Hinze's whereabouts. She didn't identify herself, or say why she wanted to know about where he was. I just said that he had headed out toward Washington, and I didn't know exactly where he was.
            She also asked if he had left property at my place. Since anything Mr. Hinze had left at my place had been bought and paid for by me, or was in safekeeping for Mr. Hinze, I assumed I was talking to a sister of his he'd repeatedly told me about. Mr. Hinze told me several times that his sister didn't help clean out their mother's place when she sold it, but was complaining about the way Tom had disposed of some of the property. I told the person I assumed was Mr. Hinze's sister, that Tom's mother had sold the place, and that he had no more property around here.
            d.  Sometime later, a warrant for Tom Hinze's DWI arrest appeared in the Duluth News Tribune.
            e.  Also sometime later, I became aquainted for the first time with my neighbor XXXXXXX (name redacted), who told me that a woman detective had questioned some of the people on this road about Mr. Hinze's whereabouts. Then, I thought perhaps the person who had called me was from the police, but since I had no idea where Tom was at that time, there was no use in calling back.
                       
4.         a.  Mr. Hinze has called me on the phone from out of state, and threatened me several times. It seems he was questioned by the police in Kalispell, Montana, where he was living in 2001. Since I was the only one who Mr. Hinze had informed he was living in Kalispell, when Mr. Hinze was questioned by the police, it was not hard for him to figure out it was me who had informed the St. Louis County Sheriff's Department where he was.
            b.  Not only did Mr. Hinze threaten me over the phone, but he also sent a post card to XXXXXXX (name redacted) saying he was coming back here to "straighten things out" with me, and that he was "pissed off" at me.
            c.  Last week I returned late Tuesday evening from an out-of-town trip, and two days later, XXXXXXX (name redacted) told me that Tom Hinze was in town, and on this road, staying with XXXXXXX (name redacted). I immediately started keeping my doors locked as tight as possible, and called Mr. Jim Dupois to ask him to inform his nephew on the Cloquet Police Department that Mr. Hinze was in town.
            Mr. Dupois said that he didn't know anything about this Tom Hinze beyond what I had told him, but assured me that he would inform his nephew. I expected to be called by some police agency about Mr. Hinze being in town, as he still has a DWI warrant in Minnesota, but I got no call.
            d. I made some calls around the neighborhood and heard from XXXXXX (name redacted) that Mr. Hinze was going out of his way to say he was NOT "pissed off" at me. Then I heard the conflicting story from XXXXXXX (name redacted) on Old Hiway 53, that Mr. Hinze had said he should "just kill" me, and "get it over with".
            d.  On Saturday, May 17, I was telling a couple of friends about this situation, and as they are both fairly large men, they suggested we go down to XXXXXXX’s (name redacted) and see if Mr. Hinze was there. He was. My friends casually mentioned that they were from Chicago, and made some small talk for a couple of minutes. One said he was going to be staying with me for a couple of weeks.
            e.  While we were at XXXXXXX’s (name redacted), XXXXXXX (name redacted) stopped in and saw that Mr. Hinze had been driving a van which was registered in her father XXXXXXX’s (name redacted) name. XXXXXXX (name redacted) had been thinking of buying this van from her father.  XXXXXXX (name redacted) became angry at seeing the van driven by Mr Hinze in a totally drunken state, took the keys, and said she was going to call 911 about the matter (and about Mr Hinze being in town).
            f. After XXXXXXX (name redacted) left, I heard Mr. Hinze say, referring to XXXXXXX (name redacted), "I am very mad. I'm controlling it now, but pretty soon it's going to explode. I'll take care of everyone at once." He was looking at me when he said this, with a smirk on his face.
            g. About an hour later, while back at my house, I heard that Mr. Hinze had been arrested for his DWI warrant. This may lock him up for too short of a time, in relationship to what I am convinced he has done, and leave me in physical danger once he is released.
            Any testimony I have offered to the Sheriff's Department seems to be being taken with a grain of salt, and my testimony has also been denigrated to Mr. Dupois and other members of Tina Langenbrunner's family, and also to Mr. Philip Wagner of the Minnesota Bureau of Criminal Apprehension. Mr. Wagner did not feel it important enough to even interview me personally, when I tried to get in contact with him. Instead, I heard second-hand that Mr. Wagner had been told that "Tom Hinze is not a suspect in this case."
            For that reason, I've decided to have copies of this statement notarized, and to send them certified mail requesting a return receipt.

Lloyd Eugene Wagner
May 19, 2003